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American Guilt: Japan Through an Activist's Eyes

67 years later. We cannot forget the past, for our present and future depends on it.

It is the end of Day 2 of the International Peace Bike Tour in Japan! It is also the middle of the night as I write this and hope I will not suffer too much for the lack of sleep tomorrow. The last two days have felt like a week because of the incredible amount of things we have accomplished.

I am not sure when I'll have internet again, but please keep reading about the experience here, at our group blog, on my Facebook page, or the group's Facebook page!

I met the Mayor of Nagasaki:

Yesterday, I met the Mayor Taue of Nagasaki in the Nagasaki Peace Memorial Museum. Our grouped expressed our views and hopes for a nuclear-free world. We also discussed how nuclear energy could turn into a nuclear disaster as was seen in Fukushima. Our time together was brief, but Mayor Taue was in full support of our goals. He wished the group a successful and safe bike tour, and if he had the time, would have liked to join himself.

Nagasaki Peace Memorial Museum:

Wow...there are several pages missing from American history books. I knew to expect more information that I had ever learned in school, but could not fully prepare for the emotions I felt. Imagine scorch marks of a ladder in a wooden fence. It was the place of where a ladder stood seconds before the blast. Such power vaporized it and all is left is a black mark. And next to that ladder is the outline of a human being. A human being, just like you or me.

I wasn't sure how I was going to feel walking in. I knew it would be a challenge to represent the U.S. in this bike tour focused on peace, nonproliferation and our environment. Despite being a first-generation Chinese-American and knowing that my family had no ties to the U.S. at the time the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan, I still felt such guilt having an American passport and daring to stand in a museum dedicated to the tragedy humanity faced in 1945. 

Tears were brought to my eyes as I listened the stories of survivors. I felt like I was going to be sick and had to walk away in fear that I might actually vomit from the horrors they described. The years of pain from one woman's story was very difficult to listen to. She was bed-ridden for 10 years as she had no skin, constant nausea and headaches, unable to keep food or drink down, and wished for death every day. My only thought: no matter how bad a war may be, we human beings (not just Americans, all people), cannot ever detonate another nuclear weapon. We know the consequences and we are not human if we can wish this agonizing pain onto others. There are others ways to a safe and peaceful world.

'Street Action':

In the morning of our 2nd day, we stood under the hot sun with 50 posters, Hibakusha Worldwide posters. What does that mean, you ask? 'Hibakusha' means a survivor of the Nagasaki or Hiroshima nuclear attack. Our posters were showing all of the other places around the world, including the U.S., that has been affected by nuclear energy and weapons. We passed out flyers to locals asking them to join us in our presentation we hosted later in the afternoon.

FYI: Each step to make nucearl energy or weapons is a dangerous process and harmful to one's health. From acquiring the uranium, to transporting it to a facility, to processong it, to testing it, to 'safely' using it in a nuclear energy facility, to storing it, and to disposing of it, it is signifcantly harmful and increases the chances for many types of cancer, leaukemia, and other illnesses.  

Incredible high school activists:

Around 100 high school students from across Japan, including Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Fukushima, and from nearby countries like the Philippines and South Korea attended a joint conference with our group. We heard from a girl (10th grade, I believe) and her personal story of how she was evacuated from Fukushima, stripped searched for radiation poisoning, parated from friends, and banned from her home for over a year. Now she is speaking out against nuclear energy because she knows from experience, the awful consequences.

Bicycles are here!

Thank you Trek! All of our bikes were donated for the two-week use by an American company or group in Wisconsin, USA! I have a lovely red bike and spent a couple minutes today attaching my SPD pedals! A big thank you to 30th Century Bicycle for donating the pedals and hydration pack and to Nor Meyers in Mt. Vernon, IA for donating the shoes to match!

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Maria Houser Conzemius August 9, 2012 at 04:00 pm
Troy, my point is that your scolding Michelle is over the top. Try to see the Nagasaki and Hiroshima memorials from her point of view, a young person making sense of the world.
Clint Eastwood made two movies about Iwo Jima, you know; one from the Japanese perspective and one from the American perspective. Eastwood is a straight up guy, don't you think? He's a Republican, that's for sure. He has also lived longer than any of us. He was alive during WWII and I doubt any of us were. I grew up in the shadow of WWII, but she didn't.
Troy Murphy August 9, 2012 at 04:14 pm
I disagree, scolding a person for expressing guilt for being an American is sometimes necessary. Feeling sadness, horror and pain for the victims of war is expected but to feel guilt for being an American just strikes me as not understanding the context and reality of the decisions that were made and demeans the sacrifices of my family and relatives who died defending this country.
Maria Houser Conzemius August 9, 2012 at 04:27 pm
Troy, you obviously have strong feelings about anyone feeling guilt for being an American. However, even though I agree that the Japanese had to be bombed into submission because they refused to surrender and the alternative of ground troops would have cost thousands of more American lives, I'm sure I would feel guilt if I attended a Japanese memorial in honor of those who died and suffered from the American bombing of Japan.
Michelle is just a kid. Lighten up. I'm not a peacenik, but it's popular with this generation to be a peacenik. That's why Ron Paul is so popular with some of my leftist friends who used to vote Democratic. It's also a form of isolationism because American wars cost so much, no matter who started them. We can't keep putting American wars on a credit card like George W. Bush did while offering ever more tax cuts to the rich. It's not working.
Rebecca Ng August 9, 2012 at 05:13 pm
Loving kindness and compassion do exist. Can you see it as a human being shows the love and respect to other human beings? Do you see Michelle’s mind as a global citizen that everybody shares the same air and water. She tries to learn how to make this world a better place to live. She felt guilty to be an American while attending the memorial and knowing how many people suffered. If you see her heart and intention, you would not be so upset about her expression. Some years ago, Bill Clinton expressed his condolences to Japan and regretted the bombing. I understand you said your relatives gave their lives to America. My parents were 20 and 12 years old when the bombing occurred. Their homes were occupied by the Japanese. Corpus were everywhere on the street. Execution and rape happened every minute during the 3 years and 8 months period. But my parents said to me when I was a kid that it wasn’t easy but they forgave them.
Maria Houser Conzemius August 9, 2012 at 05:25 pm
Rebecca Ng, where did your parents live when the bombing occurred?
I would find it difficult to forgive execution and rape on such a scale. To me, forgiveness is a contract between two people. First the person who committed rape and execution would have to say he was truly sorry. Then, perhaps, I could accept that apology.
Rebecca Ng August 9, 2012 at 06:07 pm
Maria, first my answer was directed to Troy and I forgot to address him, my apology. Second, in answer to your question, my parents lived in Hong Kong. The rape and exection were directed to everybody who walked on the street. I agree with you. I don't know how rape victim can recover. But my parents words directed to a country or the general public as whole. After some long years, if there was no forgiveness, there would be no peace.
Jeff Klinzman August 9, 2012 at 07:12 pm
Ease off, Troy. First, MacArthur was known for making wildly inaccurate casualty estimates, and he estimated one million American CASUALTIES, not DEAD, for Operation Olympic. BTW, Mac was out-generalled by Yamashita in the 1945 Phillipines campaign, which Mac repaid by having Yamashita executed.
Have you no sense of shame at the fact that the United States is the only nation to have ever used nuclear weapons? And, let's put some scale into context: while the Japanese rape of Nanking was horrible, at an estimated 250,000 Chinese civilian dead, the US made up for that in its bombing of Dresden (German civilian casualties were also very high when USAAF forces targeted the German transportation net in March and April 1945), and the fire-bombing of Tokyo in March 1945, which killed an estmated 100,000 Japanese. Is the fury of your response an unconscious expression of your own guilt, or lack of remorse?
Jeff Klinzman August 9, 2012 at 07:13 pm
In other words, Troy, you want to scold Gin for not adhering to your standards of political correctness...
Kurt B. August 9, 2012 at 07:25 pm
This entire blog is tough to read, mainly due to the strong emotions and viewpoints expressed. But Dec 7, 1941 ushered the USA into the war and Aug 6 and Aug 9 1945 helped end the war. In between those dates, horrible things happened on both sides, and especially in Europe , which we all hope will never occur again.
Troy Murphy August 10, 2012 at 03:54 am
Jeff,
No I have no shame we used nuclear weapons, It was necessary we had them we used them it ended the war. You are correct I have no remorse for what happened and I definitely have no guilt. The fury of my response is due to the fact that some of my best friends are veterans as well as active service military feeling guilt for the actions taken in defence of our country after we were attacked denigrates their service. Ask some of the last living veterans of WWII what they think of your comments.
Troy Murphy August 10, 2012 at 03:58 am
No I am scolding her for feeling guilty at being an American because of decisions made before she was born that she had no control over.
Troy Murphy August 10, 2012 at 04:03 am
Bill expressed his condolences and regret, that is different than expressing guilt. If Michelle had said she regretted the necessity I would have had no problem. I am probably incorrect in my interpretation of the point she was trying to make, you are probably correct in the belief it was not so much guilt as regret. But that was not how she expressed it.
Jeff Klinzman August 11, 2012 at 12:08 am
Troy, my dad and I agreed to disagree a long tinme ago about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. WWII vets do not "own" discussion of the bombings, nor are their perspectives definitive or normative.
You just don't want to admit that it was the USSR's final offensive of the war, against the Japanese Kwantung Army in Manchuria, which tipped the scales and convinced the Japanese to surrender...
Troy Murphy August 11, 2012 at 02:00 am
You should have listened to your father, from your comment it appears your father believes it was the right choice, maybe he was tired of seeing his friends or family die ask him sometime. I would say their perspective was pretty definitive. As far as the USSR's contribution, maybe, but I am also pretty sure the specter of more nuclear weapons raining down on Japan was a definite motivator as well..
Kurt B. August 11, 2012 at 09:52 am
@ Jeff Klinzman - plus the fact that an invasion of Japan was in the planning. It is hard to say what convinced them to surrender but one would have to agree with Troy that a 2nd bomb pretty well convinced them that there was more to come if they didn't surrender. It would be like fighting Mike Tyson. After the first direct hit he lands on your face, one would think he could still be beat. After the 2nd smasher....... maybe it's time to hit the mat.
Jeff Klinzman August 11, 2012 at 11:54 am
Ah yes, yet again we see that yours is the only correct perspective, and that you fail to appreciate nuance, Troy. In case you didn't notice, my opposition to the nuclear bombings has softened: I still think it was wrong, and that the Japanese were on the verge of surrender, but the horrific costs of the Iwo Jima and Okinawa campaigns have to be remembered as well.
You also forget that Japanese junior officers attempted a coup the night before Hirohito's broadcast, and actually attacked the Imperial Palace in an attempt to seize the recording of the Emperor's address. Many Japanese army officers wanted to fight on, regardless of how many bombs were dropped. Then there's the inconvenient fact that the US could have dropped maybe two more bombs in 1945: American industry could not produce fissile material the way it was cranking out P-51s or M-4s. My bottom line: the nuclear bombings targeted previously intact Japanese cities in order to demonstrate the power of fission weapons; tens of thousands of civilians were killed by a USAAF which had fought most of the war trying to avoid inflicting civilian casualties; the ONLY good outcome of the bombings was to educate the world about the horrors of radiation sickness and flash burns, effects which had not been anticipated; the end of the war was brought about by a number of factors, not just the bombings, but apologists for the bombings have to ignore those facts to salve their consciences.
Troy Murphy August 11, 2012 at 02:51 pm
Wow Jeff, I am glad we agree that mine is the only correct perspective. I would add that it appears your fathers perspective is correct as well. As far as your opposition on the use of nuclear weapons softening, what exactly does that nuance look like? Should we have just used a smaller bomb or maybe had it detonate at a higher altitude, what does a nuance look like exactly?
We may have only been able to drop two more bombs but the Japanese did not know that. So what you are telling me is that you have to ignore your own facts to salve your conscience? Not sure what your point is because I sure am not an apologist nor does my conscience bother me regarding dropping bombs on Japan. Yes there were a lot of factors that led to the end of the war and dropping nuclear weapons was one of them and probably the defining one.
Jeff Klinzman August 11, 2012 at 08:48 pm
"dropping nuclear weapons was one of them and probably the defining one."
GOTCHA! You have presented your interpretation of the history, Troy, and since you reached a conclusion before examining all of the evidence, of course you're going to justify the nuclear bombings. And, you should know that the Soviet Union was the real target of the bombs, not Japan, since Truman knew the Japanese wanted to end the war, and the US did NOT impose unconditional surrender terms. The US accepted the Japanese condition that Hirohito remain on the throne. If you knew the history of the Pacific War, you would have known that Hirohito was just as hated as Hitler and Mussolini, and Americans wanted him tried as a war criminal. Finally, Truman's decision to drop the bomb was informed by domestic political considerations: he didn't want the American people to discover the US had developed a nuclear weapon and NOT used it. Troy, the war was over, Japan was looking to surrender, and the surrender would have happened without either bomb being dropped.
Troy Murphy August 11, 2012 at 09:03 pm
That is your interpretation of events. It still doesn't change the fact we dropped the bombs and Japan surrendered you can believe they were ready to surrender before the bombs were dropped I believe the dropping of the bombs was the impetus. Oh yes but again we see that yours is the only correct perspective ;)
Maria Houser Conzemius August 11, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Kurt B., I agree. It was a terrible decision to have to make, but the alternative to bombing Japan was a ground war, which would have cost thousands more American lives. We didn't start the war, but we did end it. Japan was extremely reluctant to surrender.
Maria Houser Conzemius August 11, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Rebecca Ng, I had heard of the Rape of Nanking, but I didn't know such appalling things happened in Hong Kong, as well. I'm sorry. Such things scar people. I would find such crimes impossible to forgive, but that's me. I admire people who can forgive. I think understanding brings forgiveness, but some things, also, are hard to understand, and thus hard to forgive.
Rebecca Ng August 12, 2012 at 01:29 am
Maria, Most of the people who lived through those days are either very old or gone. People called that war as “three years and eight months.” Many people had no food; they ate rats, tree bark, roots – things that could be edible. I heard how my grandfather and father escaped from gun shots, etc. They had also said that the Nanking massacre was far worse, but I didn’t how bad it was until I read the book.
What Jeff Klinzman said was what I understood. The Japanese were losing the war. Even without dropping bomb, the war could end. I didn’t know the political part though. Now I learn. (I can't find a reply button to Jeff's entry.) War is horrible. Robert McNamara would talk about his mistake hoping people would not repeat it. Perhaps it eased his guilt.
Rebecca Ng August 26, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Maria, I understood from my history professor that Japan was at the verge of surrender and the war could end without the A-bomb, but I thought I should look deeper after our discussion. I don't know how long it would take the war to end, but the casualty would certainly run as high, based on the Japanese honor spirit and ability to slaughter. A book “The Most Controversial Decision …” asks “Necessary, but is it right?” It suggested little attentions were paid to the aggression and brutal acts the Japanese had done in the Far East. As you said, it was horrible to weigh on the options.
Maria Houser Conzemius August 27, 2012 at 12:44 am
Rebecca Ng, the Japanese and the Nazis were very cruel, extremely cruel.
One thing to be grateful for, maybe? We never used a nuclear bomb again, except to test them, and that testing killed a lot of people too. I am still breathless over the horror of what the Japanese did to your relatives in Hong Kong. No wonder the Chinese still hate the Japanese. I'm not saying their hatred solves anything. Not at all. but I understand it. Peace is a precious thing, and in the Middle East, for example, it rarely if ever happens.
Matthew Georges August 27, 2012 at 11:19 am
Yes, they did cruel things such as detaining prisoners indefinitely in a prison with no transparent oversight, waterboarding, and humiliating prisoners... Oh wait that was us.
Rebecca Ng August 28, 2012 at 12:06 am
Maria, yes, I had visited Dachau too. For the Middle East, I found it's hard to follow their disputes over the years since West Bank. The elderly Chinese that I talked to, they did not seek revenge or curse the Japanese, they only talked about how horrible at that time and how lucky to be alive. I once had a Japanese friend. I said "once" because we kept in touch for about ten years until I asked her how she felt about the Japanese government deleting history from history text book, Yes, peace is a precious thing, let's hope
Maria Houser Conzemius August 28, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Rebecca, I would have a hard time visiting Dachau. When I was a child I had frequent dreams of being in a concentration camp. Finally, when I was a teenager I dreamed that I slept with a Nazi colonel and got out. I stopped having the dreams. Thank God. The worst dreams were when I had to choose which member of my family would die first.
Rebecca Ng August 29, 2012 at 12:18 am
Maria, I could not imagine. That;s too much for a child. I hope you were not traumatized.
Rebecca Ng August 29, 2012 at 12:22 am
Matthew, I heard some people have the same worry.
Maria Houser Conzemius August 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Rebecca Ng, thank you for your empathy. You're a kind person.
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Maria Houser Conzemius June 13, 2013 at 10:27 am
Penn State had much the same creed, and you see what that kind of mindless hero worship led to.
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